Our understanding of reality is science, and so too is our shaping of it. Facts, research, evidence are ideally the foundations of how consequential decisions are made, in policy, business and institutions, but also in households, relationships and one’s own life. Now, what role is science playing in creating a true narrative during crises such as COVID-19 and climate change? And vice versa: how are crises affecting science’s narrative and public trust? In this session, a forestry scientist speaks with the head of some of the world’s most prestigious scientific journals about the role of science in narrative-building today.